Academic Advising
Updated September 2, 2009
Students majoring in Economics through the W.P. Carey School of Business are advised in the Undergraduate Programs Office of the W.P. Carey School. Please contact that office for assistance in BAC 109 or at 480-965-4227
Students majoring in Economics through the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences are advised by Dr. Jerry Kingston in BAC 657 and Alexa Shonteff in BAC 649. (Note: To contact Dr. Kingston or Alexia Shonteff please write to ecnadvising@asu.edu. Do not use voicemail. Be sure to include your 10 digit ASU ID on all e-mail requests.)
All current economics majors, whether in the W.P. Care School or the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, may access the academic advising website on Blackboard. Go to http://my.asu.edu and select Blackboard, then Organizations, and then Economics Academic Advising. If you are unable to access this page from my.asu.edu, send an e-mail to ECNadvising@asu.edu to request access to this Blackboard advising web site. In your request, be sure to include your first name, last name, 10 digit ASU ID number and your ASU e-mail address.
Advising Site Index (see discussions which follow)
1. Office Hours and Advising Assistance
2. Registration for Fall, 2009
3. Overrides (Pre-requisite and capacity)
4. Critical Tracking (Major Maps) and Probationary Requirements
5. Science and Society Requirements
6. Revised Courses and Course Numbering for ECN Courses
7. Instructions for Running your own DARS (degree audit) report.
8. Degree Programs: Majors and Minors in Economics
9. Honors College Students Major in Economics
1. Office Hours and Advising Assistance
Most academic advising questions can be handled by e-mail. if you are an ECN major in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, contact Dr. Kingston or Alexia Shonteff by e-mail before coming into one of our offices. The e-mail address for both of them is ecnadvising@asuedu.
Office hours for Dr. Kingston (BAC 657)
Mondays and Wednesdays: 9:00 to 11:30
Tuesdays and Thursdays: 10:00 to 11:30 and 3:00 to 4:00
Office Hours for Alexia Shonteff:
Walk-in advising: MTWTHF 8:30 to 9:30
On-Line advising: MTWTH: 9:30 to 10:30 and 11:30 to 12:00 noon; Friday 9:30 to 12:00 noon; 1:00 to 1:30 and 4:30 to 5:00 ; TTH 12:-00 to 1:30 and 4:30 to 5:00
Advising by Appt: TTHF 1:30 to 4:30 (schedule appointments at Alexia.Shonteff@asu.edu)
2. Registration for Fall 2009
1. Registration (and drop-add) for the fall 2009 semester has now ended. If you require further adjustments to your class schedule, obtain a LATE drop-add form in the Undergraduate Programs Office of the W.P. Carey School and obtain the signatures of the instructors for courses you wish to add. Your academic advisor and a representative of the Undergraduate Dean's office also will have to sign the form. You will then need to take the completed form to the Registrar's office for processing. Do not be surprised if instructors are hesitant to add students after the drop-add period has closed. Graded homework assignments and/or quizzes are already taking place in many classes, and students who add the course would not have an opportunity to earn grades for these activities.
2. Beginning in the Fall Semester of 2009, students must have completed intermediate microeconomic theory with a grade of C or higher in order to enroll for ECN 313. For this reason, beginning in the fall semester, ECN 314 will be renumbered as ECN 312 to "signal" that this course must be completed before enrolling in ECN 313.
3. In early August the University initiated a program to ensure that all students have completed prerequisites for all classes before those classes begin. Students who are currently enrolled in classes that are prerequisites for classes to be taken in the spring semester of 2010 will be able to register for those classes in the fall, but will b e dropped from those classes before the spring semester begins if they receive grades of D, E, W or I for the fall semester. Students who take prerequisite classes away from ASU must have the courses transferred back to ASU with grades of C or higher and these prerequisites must be posted to the registration system before this prerequisite check occurs. No one wants to lose classes one week before classes begin. This process will be repeated for the spring semester of 2010. IF you withdraw (W) or receive a grade of D or E in a prerequisite class (assuming a grade of C is required) at the end of the fall semester, you will be dropped from any course which requires the one that you are currently in if you register for the higher level class for the spring semester. Think carefully before you decide to withdraw from a class that is a prerequisite for one you plan to take in the spring semester.
4. Significant changes are taking placing in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences' "Science and Society" requirement. Beginning in the summer of 2009, courses taken to fulfill this requirement may be used to meet major or minor field requirements as well (assuming the course does in fact fulfill such a requirement). Prior to this time, no "double counting" of courses towards the major or minor and the Science and Society requirement was permitted. Courses may now be taken from any track: it is no longer necessary for both courses to come from the same track. Finally, the two courses combined must only meet learning objectives 1, 2 and 3, and the A and B provisions no longer apply. Details are available at http://clas.asu.edu/scienceandsociety.
5. If you have not registered, or if you wish to change your registraction, make certain that that you do not have any negative service indicators that would prevent you from making registering or making adjustment to your schedule. Negative service indicators may appear because of parking fines, library fines, lab fees, unpaid student bills, etc. Check at http://my.asu.edu to see if you have any negative service indicators other than those related to mandatory advising and handle them immediately. You may contact Dr. Kingston or Alexia Shonteff at ECNadvising@asu.edu to have the negative service indicators for mandatory advising or "off track" status removed.
6. Economics majors in either the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences or the W.P. Carey School of Business will find updated information about registration for the spring semester and other important advising information on Blackboard. Go to http://my.asu.edu and select Blackboard. Then click on the Economics Academic Advising organization tab. I will try to update this site frequently. Just this week I posted a number of updated announcements relating to Spring commencement and registration for summer and fall.
7. New first-time freshmen in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (CLAS) who are majoring in Economics and who are entering ASU in the summer or fall of 2009 must participate in an orientation session sponsored by CLAS before they are permitted to register for classes Transfer students must have had their transcripts of all previous college level academic work evaluated by the Undergraduate Programs Office of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences prior to their academic advising visit.
8. If you plan to complete degree requirements at the fend of the all semester, run a DARS after you have completed your registration for fall semester classes. You should see a message on the first page of the DARS report that says "all requirements met, but some in-progress courses may be used." If you do not see this message, your current schedule for the summer and/or fall will not permit you to fulfill all graduation requirements.
3. Overrides (Capacity and Prerequisite)
No capacity overrides will be available for the summer or fall semester. Graduating seniors receive a registration priority and are expected to enroll in the classes required for them to complete their degrees. This could be a problem for students enrolled in fall semester classes who, as noted above, could be dropped from those classes if course prerequisites are not satisfied. Please make CERTAIN that you meet all prerequisite requirements for your fall semester classes at least one week before fall classes begin. Students who have already had prerequisite overrides approved for fall semester classes will not be dropped from those classes.
Prerequisite overrides are given when students take a prerequisite class at another school and the ASU registration system does not recognize that the prerequisite requirement(s) have been met. Send an e-mail note to ecnadvising@asu.edu to request a prerequisite override. Be sure to include your 10 digit ASU ID number, the course in which you wish to enroll (department prefix and number) and when and where you took the prerequisite course. You will receive an e-mail response when your request is processed.
4. Critical Tracking and Probationary Requirements
Beginning in the fall semester of 2007, the university required that each department establish certain "critical tracking" requirements for entering first-time freshman. The requirements established for first-time freshman who entered ASU in the fall semester of 2007 are that students must pass, with a grade of C or higher, either MAT 210 or MAT 270 in the first semester, and either MAT 211 or MAT 271 in the second semester. Students also were required to complete, with a grade of C or better, either ECN 211 or ECN 212 in the second semester of their freshman year. Students were not considered to be "off track" if they were enrolled and successfully completed (with a grade of C or higher) the pre-requisite course for MAT 210 in the first semester and MAT 210 in the second semester.
The critical tracking requirements were changed during the summer of 2008, and these new requirements are now being applied both to students who initially enrolled at ASU during the last academic year and those who are entering ASU for the first time this fall. The new standards require students to complete the appropriate mathematics course (as measured by their score on the on-line mathematics placement exam) in the first semester, and MAT 210 or MAT 270 in the second semester. Students who are academically prepared to enroll directly in MAT 210 or MAT 270 are encouraged to do so. Students are expected to have completed either ECN 211 or ECN 212 by the end of their third semester of enrollment and ECN 221 (or STP 226) by the end of their fourth semester of enrollment.
The 2008 version of the "major map" is available on-line at my.asu.edu and also in the Department office. Essentially, during the first 4 semesters students must have completed ECN 211, ECN 212, MAT 210 (or 270), MAT 211 (or 271) and ECN 221 (or STP 226) to be "on-track" for their degrees. If you are completing your fourth semester at ASU in the spring 09 semester and are subject to critical tracking requirements, be certain that you have completed all of these classes with a grade of C or higher.
Economics majors in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences who were placed on probation at the end of the Spring Semester will be required to complete a probationary contract before their advising "hold" is lifted. Details are available at http://clas.asu.edu/advising/students/disqualifcation.htm . Students should consult this web site and complete the required "homework" before contacting their academic advisor to have the advising "hold" removed.
5. Science and Society Requirement (CLAS)
Students who plan to complete their degree requirements in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences under the provisions of the 2006 (or later) catalog are required to take a two-course sequence in "Science and Society" requirements. A grade of C or higher is required in both courses. Please note that, in some cases, the approved courses are both course and instructor specific. That is, you must not only be sure to have signed up for the correct course, but also you must be sure that the course is being taught by an instructor whose syllabus has been approved by Society and Society Committee as meeting the learning objectives established for these courses. Guidelines for Science and Society courses are available at http://clas.asu.edu/scienceandsociety. Students must access, print and read these requirements carefully, as there are many restrictions on the courses, and sequence of courses, that may be taken to satisfy this requirement. The Science and Society courses may be taken concurrently, as long as both components of the two-course sequence are offered in the same semester. Please be particularly careful about enrolling in courses offered with "omnibus" numbers. These are generic course numbers assigned before a course is assigned a "permanent" number in the University Catalog. Some courses offered under a given omnibus number may be acceptable to meet the Science and Society requirement, but others using that same prefix and number may not. Please note that DARS is not yet programmed to correctly post the Science and Society classes. They will be posted only if students contact Martha.Fowles in the CLAS undergraduate programs office. Once you have enrolled in a science and society class, send an e-mail to Martha.Fowles@asu.edu and request that she post the science and society class to the correct location in your DARS report. Once you have done this, run a DARS to see that the course is appropriately posted to the Science and Society section of your DARS report. If you do this, you will avoid the problem of having the class posted as meeting another requirement, only to learn later that when the course is properly posted the course will no longer satisfy that other requirement. Students are encouraged to review their DARS report to make certain that any Science and Society class they have taken is not currently appearing as satisfying any other university or college requirement.
6. Revised Courses and Course Numbering
Two new courses have been added to the undergraduate curriculum for the fall semester of 2008. The first is ECN 201, Economic Issues and Analysis, is a one-semester survey course that focuses on applications of economic principles. The course is designed for non-majors and for non-business students. The second course is ECN 301, Honors Managerial Economics.
We have one change in course numbering for the Fall Semester of 2009. ECN 314 (intermediate microeconomic theory) has been renumbered as ECN 312 to "signal" that the lower numbered course should be taken first. Beginning in the Fall Semester of 2009, ECN 312 is a prerequisite (not a co-requisite) for ECN 313 (intermediate macroeconomic theory). 7. Instructions for Running Your Own DARS
(Degree Audit) Reports
For instructions on how to run your own degree audit, see the link provided (item 6) in the Table of Contents for these announcements. You may also find the like at http://my.asu.edu.
8. Degree Programs: Majors and Minors in Economics
The Department of Economics offers the Bachelor of Science degree in Economics through the NW. AP. Carey School and two degrees—the Bachelor of Arts degree and Bachelor of Science degree—through the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. CLAS students who wish to use the 2006 or a later catalog must choose the BS degree program, as the BA program will not be available beginning with that catalog year. The Articulation Office of the Provost's Office lists the curriculum checks (select the appropriate catalog year in the line which corresponds to either the NW. AP. Carey School of Business or the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, and then "economics"). Please note that some 300-level economics courses will not fulfill ECN major field requirements. Be sure to check the specific undergraduate catalog under which the major field requirements for your degree are determined.
The Department of Economics offers two minors in economics: a General Minor and a Minor for Students Planning a Career in Law
The Minor in General Economics consists of 18 semester hours of credit which include ECN 211 and ECN 212 plus any 12 hours of upper-division economics courses for which all prerequisites have been met. Minors in General Economics are required to take MAT 210 + MAT 211 or MAT 270 + MAT 271 in order to enroll in upper division (300 or 400 level) ECN classes. As a result, total hours for the minor are 24.
The Minor in Economics for Students Planning a Career in Law provides an opportunity for a prospective law student to take courses that provide them with analytical tools essential for the student of law. One of the most dramatic recent developments in law is the integration of economic analysis in legal theory and decision making. Curricula at all major law schools reflect this change. Consequently, future lawyers are being trained with courses that rely increasingly on microeconomic theory and econometrics. The applications of economics to law have moved beyond the training areas of antitrust and regulation. First-year law courses now include microeconomic theory with applications to contracts, torts, criminal law, property and constitutional law.
The Minor in Economics for Students Planning a Career in Law consists of 18 semester hours (plus one of the two-course calculus series described above). Required courses include: ECN 211—Macroeconomic Principles B (3), ECN 212—Microeconomic Principles B (3), ECN 314—Intermediate Microeconomic Theory B (3), ECN 450—Law and Economics AL (3), and ECN 453—Government and Business (3). Also required is at least one additional economics or accounting course at the 300 level or above. As of the fall semester of 2009, Intermediate Microeconomic Theory will be renumbered as ECN 312.
9. Honors College Students Majoring in Economics
Many students who pursue degrees in Economics through CLAS are also enrolled in the Barrett Honors College. Details on admissions requirements and Honors College Programs may be found at http://honors.asu.edu. Honors college requirements are monitored by academic advisors in the Honors College. The Department of Economics offers a number of courses for honors credit, but the department does not require any minimum number of honors courses for the honors designation for an undergraduate degree. Students who choose to enroll in ECN 213 (Honors Macroeconomics) and ECN 214 (Honors Microeconomics) will not have to take ECN 211, ECN 212, ECN 313 and ECN 314. However, they will be required to take two additional upper division economics elective courses because only six credit hours can be earned by taking ECN 213 and ECN 214. Economics majors in the Barrett Honors College must complete ECN 493 (thesis). Please note that, beginning in the fall semester of 2009, ECN 492 (research) will no longer be offered. Students will receive only three semester hours of credit for their theses, and should plan accordingly.
